Thursday, November 26, 2015

Trump Telling the Truth: American Muslims Cheered 911 Attacks

American Muslims Cheered 911 Attacks
By Dick Wassinya

Donald Trump is telling the truth about Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on September 11, 2001.
I drove with family members though Patterson, N.J. that morning, after the planes hit. It’s not the kind of thing you forget.

We witnessed people in traditional Muslim garb dancing, jumping, shouting and celebrating like their team had won the Super Bowl, just as Trump said.

“I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down,” Trump said Saturday. “And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.”


Trump has refused to back off of those comments. He told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos Sunday, “it did happen. I saw it.”

MORE PROOF of Muslims Celebrating 911 attack: 

Rudy Giuliani 'Confirms' 9/11 Celebrations in Unbelievable ...

Media outlets and politicians have been quick to call the Republican presidential front-runner a liar but the fact is it happened just like he said.

I didn’t see thousands of Muslims celebrating but I absolutely saw a pocket, perhaps 100, jumping for joy at the sight of the smoke rising from where the Twin Towers used to be. The funny part of the media-made controversy is that until Trump recalled his experience on that day, these events were a commonly accepted fact by Jerseyans.

Others in N.J. have spoken about witnessing these events.

Suddenly we are all being called liars in order for Trump-haters to cast aspersions on him.

Well, I defy anyone in the media to call me a liar to my face.

Was the Washington Post lying in an article on September 18, 2001 when it wrote the following?

"In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river."

I know what I saw, Donald Trump knows what he saw and scores of N.J. residents know what they saw.

What none of us need is some talking head who doesn’t live here or didn’t see what we did to tell us what happened.

I encourage anyone who witnessed the celebrations in N.J., N.Y., or any other city that day to share their stories on Twitter with the hashtag  #TrumpIsright.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:,7340,L-4053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified.  1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.  13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam".  1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt.  1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).

The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
See also: for further statistics on Islamic terror.


  1. Good morning Fat Bastardo:

    Well . . . . . I hope you had a happy Turkey Day.

    Anyway . . . . .

    I think I may have to call you out on something, concerning Donald Trump's comment of seeing Muslims celebrating 9/11.

    OK, I'm sure a few radical Muslims did cheer as the World Trade Center Twin Towers came tumbling down.

    But, it was NOT "hundreds and thousands" of Muslims as Donald Trump claims.

    Please go to this website

    Journalists have been tracking down the rumors and came up with very little or nothing.

    First, Donald Trump claims he saw it on TV, then he changes his story and says he saw it on the Internet somewhere.

    I remember back in 2001 hearing all kinds of rumors, that the Jews knew in advance that there would be an attack, and told Jewish employees not to show up for work. NO! WRONG! Jews lost their lives, along with Muslims, and Christians, and people of other religions, and also agnostics and atheists who worked at the World Trade Center.

    OK, here's a FACT!

    President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney both knew in advance that there would be an attack on American soil, and could have taken actions to prevent it, but did NOT! They simply allowed it to happen, so that they would have an excuse to go into Afghanistan and later, into Iraq, where they found that there were NO weapons of mass destruction. It was all a big lie.

    Both Bush and Cheney are war criminals and Cheney was even worse than Bush!

    To be continued below . . . . .

    1. . . . . . Continued from above . . . . .

      Anyway . . . . . the fact is, a vast Majority of American Muslims do NOT want Sharia Law.

      Yeah, Sharia Law can not be implemented because it would be unconstitutional, and a Christian theocracy being imposed would also be unconstitutional.

      I'm actually more worried about a Christian theocracy being imposed on us than Sharia Law.

      Also . . . . . concerning the Syrian refugees . . . . .

      That vast majority of them are NOT terrorists, but rather, the victims of terrorism.

      I think we should allow the Syrian refugees to come to the USA. There is already a very stringent vetting procedure that refugees must go through, which can take up to two years.

      Also, I'm sick and tired of seeing photos dead babies with the backs of their heads blown off from gunshots, and I'm sick and tired of seeing photos of dead babies washed up on a beach somewhere.

      President Obama wants to allow about 10,000 Syrian refugees to come here. I think he can do much better than that! We can handle it!

      We're talking about families. Mostly mother and their babies and orphaned children who lost their parents.

      Oh! The Republicans say, that they will allow some refugees to come here if they're Christians, but they won't allow Muslims, or people of other religions, or any atheist and agnostics. And there are some atheists and agnostics living in Syria, being executed.

      NO! The Constitution forbids any religious tests for refugees or politicians running for office.

      As I have said, there is a stringent vetting procedure before they can be allowed to come to America.

      Also, Donald Trump as a liar by the town clock! He lies like a piss-soaked wet rug on a shit-house floor!

      So far, at every public Trump rally, the crowds have violently attacked Hispanics and blacks.

      Also, there is the recent shootings of five #BlackLivesMatter protesters by some White Supremacists during a Trump rally.

      HEY!!! I happen to be a member of #BlackLivesMatter. In October 2014 last year, I took part in a demonstration at down town El Paso, Texas.

      I'm also a member of MillionHuddies and Color of Change.

      I live in a neighborhood that has a lot of Hispanics and blacks, and I get along with them just fine. I'm perfectly happy where I live.

      On my front door, I have a couple of Obama stickers and a couple of Bernie Sanders stickers. So, everyone in the hood knows I'm a Democrat.

      I like Bernie Sanders. Actually, I LOVE Bernie Sanders. Not only is he running as a Democrat, he's also a socialist, as am I.

      Also, I think Hillary Clinton is a little too conservative for me. Bernie Sanders takes a much stronger stance against Wall Street, and the corporate banks, and he even wants to break up the big banks.

      Well . . . . . It's after 5:00 AM and I need to log some sack time.

      Catch ya later, Gator!

      ~ Big Fat Heretic ~

    2. I'm going to defend Trump on this and here's why. Certainly Trump exaggerated the number of Muslims cheering the attack in the WTC but it did happen and some of the cheering Muslims were questioned by the FBI. There are many eye witness accounts of Muslims cheering and dancing in the streets in Jersey City. That happened.

      The CIA predicts that 25% of the world's Muslims are radicalized. We both know how evil many Christians can be but 90% are peaceful as are 75% of Muslims peaceful but those 75% and of Muslims and 90% of Christians are irrelevant to the problem at hand.

      As bad as Christians are Muslims are far worse. Muslims are like Christians on steroids and because the Koran and Hadith are so literal there is no way for them to weasel out of what it really says. The radical Muslims are the truest Muslims but with Christianity there's a lot of wiggle room. The 7th Day Adventists and the Southern Baptists are really fucked up where are the Catholics and Episcopalians are closer to sane. The are not science deniers and they are not the ones attacking Planned Parenthood.

      As to Bernie vs Hillary. My heart is with Bernie but my head is with Hillary. Bernie is a very decent man and I think his ideas are better than Hillary's but Hillary is a tough bitch and she has Bill. Bill is the big dog and Clintonian democracy works.

      Back to Muslims and Christians. The worst form of government is theocracy and that is why I oppose both Muslims and Christian and not just the radical ones because they all can become dangerous and radical.

      Another point. Most Christians do not want to kill gays but those Christians are irrelevant because there are a lot of Christians who want to follow Leviticus 20:13 and kill all gay men. I don't want any Bible believers in the world because the Bible is dangerous and evil. The Koran and Haddith are far more brutal than the BuyBull and Muslims are more strongly indoctrinated than Christians.

      Muslims follow the teaching of Mohammad and Mohammad was on sick son of a bitch. He was way worse than Jesus and Jesus probably never really existed. Mohammad was real. Hitler wrote Mien Kampf and Mein Kampf isn't half as evil as the Koran or Bible. Would you want disciples of Hitler in the US or anywhere in the US? They are here and the government is keeping a close eye on them.

      Islam is a right wing philosophy. Republicans would make splendid Muslims and all one has to do to get them to convert is to change Mohammad's name to JEEEEEESUS and the right wing nuts in this country would be out raping little girls and acting just like ISIS. Deep down Republicans admire radical Muslims. Pat Buchanan has said it.

      As for the rest of the GOP candidates, with the possible exception of John Kasich Trump is the best of the bunch. The real problem is the Republican voter. Neo Conservatism is a mental and moral illness. Neo Conservatism is the enemy more than people like Trump. The most evil Republicans are Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio. Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina and Ben Carson.

    3. I'm OK with the Syrian refugees coming to the US. I would be happier if they would denounce Islam. In the Middle East if a person leaves Islam the Muslims will kill them so I;m guessing that many of the Syrian refugees are Muslims in name only.

    4. Good evening Fat Bastardo:

      I'm glad you agree with me on the Syrian refugees.

      But here's a link from another article from PoliticusUSA, a Newsletter to which I am subscribed.
      The website is hosted by Bernie Sanders.

      Devastating Video Proves Donald Trump Lied About
      New Jersey 9/11 Attack Celebrations
      By: Jason Easley
      Friday, November 27th, 2015, 9:20 pm

      MTV News has released video footage that proves that Donald Trump was wrong about “thousands and thousands” of people in New Jersey celebrating after the Twin Towers fell on 9/11.


      MTV News debunked Trump:

      Some of these cite as evidence a column from controversial anti-Muslim commentator Debbie Schlussel, which “makes a reference to an MTV broadcast of protests and riots in Paterson, N.J.” — a claim, the Post continues, that “has never been authenticated.”

      We dug up the footage in question, and the truth is that these protests and riots never happened — at least not in the manner depicted by Schlussel and Trump.

      The reports to which Schlussel refers are part of a documentary called “Fight For Your Rights: Aftermath of Terror,” which first aired on MTV on Nov. 17, 2001. Here’s what the footage actually shows: a Paterson resident and high school senior named Emily Acevedo telling MTV that she saw “a lot of people … chanting and raving,” “holding rocks and sticks” and “saying ‘burn America.'”
      On Wednesday (Nov. 25), MTV tracked down Acevedo to see if her story or perspective has changed in the 14 years since her interview. It had, slightly. Acevedo told MTV that on the night of Sept. 11, she “saw probably about a dozen or so kids” between the ages of 12 and 13, “hanging out” and “being very loud, being very rambunctious. A couple of them had sticks and maybe a bat. They were breaking a little bit of public property.”

      Trump’s “thousands and thousands” of anti-Muslim protesters were really a dozen or so 12 or 13-year-olds doing what they do when in a group with no adults around.

      MTV’s report was devastating to the Republican frontrunner’s already non-existent relationship with the truth.

      Let’s say it again. There were no mass celebrations in the United States when the WTC fell. There is no video or eyewitness footage of these imaginary celebrations. What does exist is an old conspiracy theory that has been spread by bigoted right-wingers for nearly fifteen years.

      Trump has that is a world class master of fabrication and manipulation. Donald Trump’s greatest asset in the Republican primary is his complete neglect of truth and facts, but this “strength” is a weakness that will lead to a crushing defeat if he is the GOP nominee in 2016.

      OK, I'm sure, there were some Muslims who did celebrate 9/11 but it was NOT thousands and thousands of Muslims across the USA or thousands of Muslims in New Jersey.

      No, there are no eyewitnesses accounts from New Jersey of seeing thousands of Muslims celebrating in the streets.

      The only thing seen in the streets was a bunch of rambunctious teenagers swinging baseball bats and damaging some public property.

      That was it! So, Donald Trump is a liar!

      I've even checked out AlterNet, and Ring of Fire. I don't trust the mainstream media anymore.

      To be continued below . . . . .

  2. . . . . . continued from above . . . . .

    Anyway . . . . . I remember watching most of the NEWS broadcasts back in 2001, and I have NEVER seen any NEWS footage of thousands of Muslims celebrating in the streets of any town anywhere, NOT EVEN ON FOX NEWS, but I only heard of small radical groups.

    OK, I have seen Muslims celebrating the 9/11 attack overseas on some NEWS broadcasts, and some even shouting "Death to America!" but nothing like that in the USA.

    It appears that the majority of American Muslims more or less kept quiet, neither celebrating nor publicly denouncing. So, yeah! I did wonder why there wasn't a lot public denouncements. None of their religious leaders tried to publicly denounce the 9/11 attacks.

    So, I can only assume, that by their silence, they were more or less accepting it. I don't know. I'm just speculating.

    We have a Mosque here in El Paso with a gold colored dome, and I have seen Muslims on the bus, the ladies with their head scarves (no burkas) and young men with their small goatee type of beards, and some clean shaven. They're usually quiet on the bus and don't say much. As I have said, the majority of American Muslims do not want Sharia Law.

    NO! I'm not defending Islam. I think, like ALL religions, it's all bullshit and another cult. Yes, the Qur'an is even worse than the Bible.

    But, it's not Muslims who are burning down black churches, as had happened last summer in Charleston, killing 9 people. And it's not Muslims who are attacking Planed Parenthood clinics, shooting and killing people.

    So, I'm really not afraid that we'll have Islamic terrorists here in the USA, as the paranoid Republicans are so worried about. From what I have seen, most American Muslims just want to be left alone. And it's not Muslims who want to impose their version of Creationists beliefs into our public school science classes.

    Again, I'm not defending their stupid, and I acknowledge, dangerous religious cult. Yes, Mohammad was even worse than Jesus was, but neither one of them actually existed. It's all just made up shit.

    Oh! But it's right-wing Christard Fundie extremists who are shooting up black churches and Planned Parenthood clinics. I fear the Christian right-wing more than I fear the average Muslim.

    The Republican party is America's Taliban!

    As you know, during a couple of recent Donald Trump rallies, five members of #BlackLivesMatter were shot by some white supremacists, and there was a journalist there who was physically handicapped, and Donald Trump did a spastic imitation of the journalist.

    So, not only dose Trump hate blacks and Hispanics, he also hates people who are physically handicapped.

    As I have mentioned before, I'm also a member of #BlackLivesMatter, and MillionHoodies, and Color of Change. So, according to FOX NEWS, people like me are terrorists!

    Also, I most dearly, and sincerely hope, that a Trump rally does not come to El Paso, Texas. But, if so, then I will not go out shopping on that day. I don't want to have to go past a Trump rally on my way to my destination, because, I might get attacked by some right-wing wackos, get knocked off from my JAZZY power chair, get beaten up on and kicked in the ribs, and my JAZZY gets tipped over, and smashed with to bits with sledgehammers!

    NO! I don't want to die on the 6 O'Fucking Clock NEWS. And of course, if FOX NEWS, or rather, WEASEL NOISE gets wind of the incident, they'll probably say that I deserved it, because, people in wheelchairs are also terrorists!

    OK, I know that many of us on the left get accused of defending Muslims over Christianity. But, I also subscribe to Friendly Atheist, and both Islam and Christianity gets called out in equal measure, and on Friendly Atheist, Donald Trump got called on his lies and bullshit!

    So, Friendly Atheist is also another very good unbiased source of information.

    Well, I'm getting tired and it's well after 3:00 AM.

    I'll get back to you again later.

    ~ Big Fat Heretic ~

    1. I was living in NY at the time and there were American Muslims celebrating and they were questioned by the FBI. Trump's claim is exaggerated but there is a ring of truth to it. The other thing I would say for Trump is that it takes a lot of balls for him to say it. Mulims may put out a fatwa on him.

      Trump certainly attracts the crazies but then again most Republicans are crazy. Ben Carson's crazies are crazier than Trump's crazies.

      I like what Trump is doing. He's wrecking the GOP and exposing the GOP voters for the fools they are. An honorable person like Bernie could not attract Republican voters. Republicans can't survive unless they are totally depraved scum.

      I don't think Trump is a big hater like the other Republicans and I doubt if he hates Mexicans because Mexicans are putting money in his pocket with their hard labor. Cruz is the most dangerous of the bunch and Bush and Rubio are nearly as bad.

  3. Good evening Fat Bastardo:

    I was going to respond last night, but I was feeling really depressed. As You know, my doctor suspects that I'm bipolar, and I go through all kinds of mood swings. Last night, this fat bear went into hibernation mode. But now, I'm back.

    OK, I'm sure there were a few small groups of Muslims here and there who celebrated the collapse of the twin towers. But nothing from New Jersey, no "thousands and thousands" of Muslims jumping up and down in the streets and holding tailgate parties in Jersey as Trump claims.

    Also, Trump has no balls! Like all republicans, he's a coward! They're all afraid, scared to death of mommies and their little babies!

    Of course, just like you, I also like what Trump is doing to the GOP! But, I don't think he's merely trolling anymore. At first, I thought he was only pranking us, pretending to be a racist, that he was only a POE!

    But, I don't think that anymore. Because now, at the Trump rallies, the crowds are getting more violent, not just attacking and beating up on blacks and Hispanics, but also, there has been some shootings, and in future Trump rallies, I suspect it's going to get even worse! Trump even says that those who have been attacked, deserve it. So, he's not just a POE! He's the real thing, and I'll even bet he has a white robe and hood hanging up in his bed room closet!

    Speaking of Republicans sometimes telling the truth . . . . . Mike Huckabee came out, and correctly acknowledged, that the recent shootings in a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado was indeed, and act of domestic terrorism, while all his other Republican colleagues have kept silent.

    As we all know, even a broken clock shows the correct time twice each day!

    So, Mike Huckabee is just another broken clock that struck the correct hour!

    Yeah! The occasional nugget of truth that we might get from Republicans, is like a 24 karat diamond ring buried under a mountain of BULLSHIT seven times the height of Mount Everest!!!

    Oh yeah! Oh yes indeed! Mike Huckabee really does tell the truth! He hates gays and lesbians and transgender, along with Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal. These three squealing weasels were guests on a right-wing radio talk-show hosted the Pastor Kevin Swanson. They had said that all gays, and lesbians, and transgender should be put to death, executed, unless they repent and change their ways. Oh! How nice of them!

    OK! So, Trump does not advocate the killing of gays and lesbians.

    But, he really doesn't care in anyone gets beaten up or even shot during any of his rallies.

    To be continued below . . . . . . .

    1. . . . . . . . Continued from above . . .

      OK, you said . . . . . "The CIA predicts that 25% of the world's Muslims are radicalized." Is that 25% percent overseas, or also in the USA?

      I don't give the CIA much credence either. They can pretty much go fuck themselves!!!

      Did you know . . . . . that back in the 1960s and 1970s . . . . . that the CIA used patients in many state mental hospitals as human guinea pigs in drug experiments? As you recall, I had mentioned in one of these topics, back in April of 1969, when I was 17 years old, I spent three weeks in a state mental hospital in northern New Mexico. The very first day I was shot up with Thorazine, and about three times each day, we all stood in line for our medications, and we were all given the same exact pills, about seven different pills. The hospital did not take into account any individual differences among the patients. We were ALL given the SAME seven different colored pills. We were all probably part of one of many such Government drug experiments across the USA back then. Yeah! I felt like a fat rat in a Skinner Box!

      And when I can home, I suffered withdrawal symptoms, and within just six weeks, my weight shot up from 190 pounds to over 250 pounds! All those pills really fucked me up! It took me almost two fucking years to fully recover from the side-effects of all those pills.

      NO, I'm not saying for sure that the state mental hospital in New Mexico was part of any CIA Government drug experiments. I really do not know one way or the other, and there is probably no way of knowing. So, I don't want to get into any woo woo here. I'm just saying, there were experimental drugs being used in some state mental hospitals back in the 1960s and 1970s.

      Oh! And speaking of the CIA . . . . .

      The Koch Brothers have recently hired a retired CIA analyst to keep track of all the left-wing Democratic and Socialist movements here in the good ol' USA! Yeah! To keep track, and spy on us who are members of #BlackLivesMatter and MillionHoodies and Color of Change. As I have said, I happen to be a member of all three of these movements.

      Donald Trump thinks that all immigrants should be placed on some kind of watch-list.

      NO! I have been doing some more research. In an article from Demand Progress, you are 7 times more likely to get shot and killed by domestic white supremacist right-wing terrorists groups than by Muslims.

      I'm not worried about foreign terrorists. I'm far more worried by our own home-grown domestic white terrorists.

      The CIA and the FBI should keep closer tabs on right-wing extremists. They are the biggest threat. NOT those of us on the left. In fact, we have been demonstrating against violence. We do not want to see more unarmed blacks and Hispanics getting killed by cops, and we do not want to see any more cops getting killed either.

      OK! But FOX NEWS - AKA - WEASEL NOISE calls us terrorists!!!

      To be continued below . . . . .

    2. . . . . . Continued from above . . . . .

      OK, you remember in another topic, when I mentioned an incident at Fargo, North Dakota. A couple of Astronomy students came very close to getting shot by a couple of stupid cops who had mistaken their telescope for a big gun!

      If those two Astronomy students had been black, they would be dead now!

      Well, here's some more whacked out right-wing shit from North, Dakota!!!

      Check out this article from . . . . . . . . which is titled . . . . .

      First State Legalizes Taser Drones for Cops, Thanks to a Lobbyist
      North Dakota police will be free to fire ‘less than lethal’ weapons from
      the air thanks to the influence of Big Drone.

      I won't quote the article in it's entirety here, because it's way too long to post.

      Please do check it out.

      Anyway . . . . . Republican Representative, Rick Becker, wanted to authorize the use of "spy drones" to fly over neighborhoods. But the original intent was that the drones would only be used if authorize with a legal search warrant. Also, the drones would be unarmed.

      But, Police Lobbyist, Bruce Burkett, of the North Dakota Peace Officer’s Association was allowed by the state house committee to amend the House Bill, HB 1328 and limit the prohibition only to lethal weapons. Only “less than lethal” weapons like rubber bullets, pepper spray, tear gas, sound cannons, and Tasers are therefore permitted on police drones.

      But, these so-called "non-lethal" weapons have been known to kill on some occasions. Too many jolts from a Taser can kill. Sometime rubber bullets can kill.

      I hope the Republicans don't win in the 2016 Presidential election. Because, all these sociopaths that make up the Republican party will want to have armed police drones flying over low-income neighborhoods, like, where I live, in low income public housing areas.

      There is going to be another total lunar eclipse sometime in 2017 and because I live in a ghetto-like neighborhood, I might get shot and killed by a police drone flying over my hood if I'm see sitting in my JAZZY with my binoculars.

      Yeah! We poor people must keep our eyes down! EYES DOWN! EYES DOWN! EYES DOWN!!!

      No, I'm not afraid of the Muslims here in the USA. The vast majority of them just want to be left alone.

      I'm far more afraid of the Republican party. It is America's Taliban! It is worse than ISIS! In fact, ISIS only exists because of the Bush administration. If we had never gone into Iraq, there would be no ISIS today.

      I think we should take Bush and Cheney, fly them over an ISIS encampment, and kick then out of the plane, and parachute them down right into the waiting arms of ISIS!

      Now, that would be sweet! Real Sweet!

      ~ Big Fat Heretic ~

  4. CIA says 25% are radicalized worldwide. There are less radicals in the US.

    I don't trust the CIA much but given all the worldwide attacks by Muslims since 911 I can believe the 25% figure.

    Certainly the GOP is a greater threat to American than ISIS but ISIS and conservaturds have a lot in common. Both hate women and gays and both want world domination. Both groups follow the same evil god of Abraham.

    CIA and FBI do a lot of nasty things. I'm sure you recall what they did to Richard Jewel. They FUCKED HIM and the media helped. Trump is a scumbag but if the media concentrated on the other candidates they would prove to be even bigger scumbags than Trump. I realize that comparing Republican candidates to each other is like asking which shit smells the worst ie dog shit vs pig shit, lion shit ect.. They all suck but I would compare Trump to horse shit. Horse shit is unpleasant but it usually doesn't make you gag.

    All this attention on Trump is allowing the other scum to fly under that radar. With the possible exception of Kasich the GOP candidates IMO are all worse than Trump.

    Bush and Cheney need to face a war crimes tribunal and it needs to be all legal. If Bush goes to Canada he will be arrested as a war criminal.

    1. United States. A 2013 poll from Pew showed that 13% of American Muslims said that violence against civilians is often, sometimes or rarely justified to defend Islam. A 2011 poll from Pew showed that 21 percent of Muslims are concerned about extremism among Muslim Americans.


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