Sunday, February 16, 2014

Mormon Church Harbouring Aiding and Abetting Another Corporate Criminal

First off, Mormons are not even false Christians because they are are NOT Christians false of otherwise. It turns out after Gary Newsome CEO of HMA got caught committing massive medical fraud the Mormon Church gave him a job in Uruguay as president of a mission.

Unless and until this God forsaken country has the morality to stop monetizing disease this sort of evil and criminal activity will continue.

Health Management Associates, including one contending former CEO Gary Newsome pushed unnecessary admissions for false billings.

Newsome, who resigned as chief executive officer July 31, directed “HMA’s corporate practice of pressuring emergency department physicians and hospital administrators to raise inpatient admissions rates, regardless of medical necessity,” the federal agency said in a statement.

The lawsuit naming Newsome said he exerted significant pressure on doctors in emergency rooms to admit patients who instead could have been put under observation, treated as outpatients or discharged. They were admitted to obtain inflated or false medical claims paid by the federal government, the agency said.

Besides setting targeted admission rates in emergency rooms at all HMA hospitals, directors of emergency rooms and physicians found their employment contingent on increasing admissions, Justice Department officials said.

Hospital executives were threatened with firing if they didn’t coerce physicians to admit more patients, according to one of the lawsuits. Another suit says patients were improperly admitted for scheduled surgical procedures when they should have been treated as outpatients, the agency said.

HMA owns 71 hospitals in 15 states, including two Physicians Regional Healthcare System campuses in Collier County.

The whistle-blower complaints contend HMA paid kickbacks to other physician groups to induce referrals, which included improper direct payments and free office space to Primary Care Associates, a practice in Port Charlotte, the agency said.

“This intervention decision marks the culmination of a lengthy and comprehensive investigation into a variety of serious fraud allegations against one of our district’s largest health-care providers,” A. Lee Bentley III, Acting U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Florida, said Monday in a statement.

Newsome’s resignation came while the Justice Department and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission were conducting probes of HMA’s billing practices for at least two years.

Newsome became CEO in 2008. He resigning after he said he was tapped by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to serve as president of its Uruguay-Montevideo Mission in South America.

In a May 28 interview with the Naples Daily News, Newsome said he was proud of his accomplishments with HMA and had transformed the company “into a vibrant, innovative company that is well-positioned and on a clear path to great success.”

When asked Monday about the allegations against Newsome, HMA spokeswoman MaryAnn Hodge said in a statement: “While our legal team addresses these matters and continues to cooperate with the Department of Justice’s ongoing investigation, HMA associates and physicians who practice at our facilities are focused on providing the highest quality patient care in all our hospitals.”

HMA is to be acquired by Tennessee-based Community Health Systems Inc. after 98 percent of votes cast by shareholders last week approved the $7.6 billion sale. That includes Community Health assuming $3.7 billion of HMA’s debt.

The Federal Trade Commission still has to approve the acquisition, which would make Community Health the largest hospital system in the U.S. based on the number of hospitals. Community Health would operate 206 hospitals with 31,000-plus beds.

Health-care analyst Sheryl Skolnick, with CRT Capital Group LLC, said the last four suits unsealed Monday were the most incriminating.

Whistle-blower suits like these are sealed procedurally until the government investigates the allegations, then unsealed.

“They kept the best for last,” she said. “This is a unique case because it does name Gary Newsome as an individual. In order for the DOJ to intervene, obviously they have to feel there is enough ‘there’ to substantiate their taking on Gary as a defendant.”

Though the last four suits are different from the first four, together they paint the same story of wrongdoing, Skolnick said.

Until now, the suits might have suggested a bad apple here or there at HMA’s hospitals, she said.

“It’s the same thing all over the place,” Skolnick said.

After Newsome joined HMA at the end of 2008, the struggling company turned around quickly, growing admissions, which concerned Skolnick, a vocal HMA critic.

“The record will show patient volumes changed very quickly,” she said.

HMA — or its new owners — might be forced to buy back the interest in its hospitals that were sold to physicians, as it was in the case of HealthSouth Corp. and its accounting scandal years ago, Skolnick said.

“So the doctors would have to get money back, not their money back, but money back,” she said. “And it’s not clear how much.”

It’s not a complicated case, so it shouldn’t be difficult to explain to a jury, she said.

“It’s a simple story,” Skolnick said. “This is not some kind of arcane financial statement fraud.”
Criminal Mormon Medical Fraudster Gary Newsome
NAPLES — The U.S. Department of Justice says it is joining eight whistle-blower lawsuits against Naples-based hospital chain.

For more on the scumbag LDS church and Gary D Newsome click here.

30 comments:

  1. Good morning Fat Bastardo:

    So, this Gary Newsome CEO of HMA was involved in some kind of medical fraud. Well . . . I hope they put him, not IN the jail, but UNDER the jail.

    But . . . guess what!!!

    That is actually small potatoes compared to how bad things would be in the USA now if Mitt Romney had won the 2012 election to become President.

    As we all know, Mitt Romney is a Mormon (moron) and he was also a Bishop at the Longfellow Park Chapel in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

    OK. When ever one is elected, or re-elected President he must swear the following oath of office.

    "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    But, when Mitt Romney was a Mormon Bishop, as a Mormon (moron) he had to swear this following oath, the Law of Consecration, which is a threat to the separation of church and state, and the Oath of Vengeance.

    The Oath of Vengeance reads as follows:

    "You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will pray and never cease to pray to Almighty God Elohim to avenge the blood of the prophets upon the United States, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the third and fourth generation."

    So, good old Mitt Romney has sworn to take revenge against the USA for the killing of their prophet, Joesph Smith.

    That oath takes top top top priority, even over the oath of office he would have sworn, if he had been elected President of the United States.

    And as President, Mitt Romney would now be in the process of destroying this country. Proclaiming there is a serious economic crises, he would have just about everything shut down, perhaps tearing down steel bridges and tearing up railroad track to sell off to foreign investors as scrap!

    Highways and freeways would be privatized, and power plants would be shut down, and America would no longer be a Democracy, but would become a Theocracy and we would be living under some kind of feudal system, with America broken up into many small isolated fiefdoms, sort of like in the Medieval era.

    OK, I'm all for freedom of religion, and all that, as long as people do not impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us.

    But I have to take exception to the Mormon church, the Catholic church, and Scientology. Yeah! The big three! What I call a Trinity of absolute evil.

    OK, I do favor freedom OF religion, as long as we can also have freedom FROM religion.

    But the questions is, how much freedom should we allow religions to have?

    Suppose there was a religion that practiced human sacrifices, burning small children alive on an alter as a sacrifice to their God, and torturing children who misbehave by beating and/or stoning them to death for even the slightest misdeed!

    The laws of this country would take a rather dim view of that sort of thing, and say, NO, you can not have human sacrifices and burn children or anybody, dead or alive on an alter, and you can not torture little children and beat them to death for any reason.

    Oh! But then . . . . . this cult will say, But you're interfering with our religious freedom, and undermining our parental authority over our children.

    Well . . . in cases like this, their so-called "religious freedom" and their parental authority ought to be undermined!

    I say, the Mormon church, the Catholic church, and Scientology should be declared outlaw organizations.

    And Mitt Romney should NEVER be allowed to hold public office, and he should also be charged with TREASON!!!

    And if found guilty, he should get death by firing squad.


    Teddy Bear

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    1. Great find Teddy!!! I knew something about that but it had slipped my mind. I t would seem that Mormons have a major hard-on for America and anyone who knows their religion is BS. You are right they are treasonous vermin and their oath of vengeance is a statement of treason.

      LDS or should I sat LSD church has had a long history of hating non Whites and it is in their scripture.In the 1970's they back peddled on it but the Book of Mormon (Book for Morons) calls non white people loathsome and it calls White people "delthightsome". That's not even a fucking word.

      The punishment for treason is death but that will never happen because the Mormon church has a lot of financial clout.

      Wanna have some fun Teddy. Google Mormon chat and be nice at first and gain their confidence. The start asking them some tough questions.

      Check out mormon.org/chat

      Missionaries chat with you in real time and try to help you find answers to whatever questions you may have about the topics introduced on Mormon.org. I have done this and It's really fun fucking with them.

      One of my favorite movie scenes is the Bear Jew scene from Inglorious Basterds. Look for it on You Tube. In it Lt Aldo Raine unleashes the "Bear Jew" on a Nazi officer and the Bear Jew beats that filthy Nazi to death with a baseball bat. How wonderfully American.

      We can be the Inglorious Fat Basterds and YOU can be the cyber Bear Jew or the Teddy Bear Jew and beat the punks and bullies to death with your cyber bat. The pen is mightier than the sword. Therefore I am unleashing the Teddy Bear Jew or Cyber Jew. Troll those fucking brainwashed Mormon Morons.

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    2. Good evening Fat Bastardo:

      Yes, I will check out those Mormon blogs. I'll think up a user name.

      At first I'll be polite, and play along with them.

      Yes, sometimes I do know how, NOT to act like the unmitigated prick, and the bitch that I am!

      But then . . . after about 3 or 4 comments, I'll lower the boom!

      Oh! By the way, I forgot to post a link to a YouTube video.

      Here is is.

      Behind The Veil: Never-before-seen videos of secret Mormon Temple Rituals

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udew9axmdM

      Yeah! Really creepy stuff!

      And here's a link to another YouTube video I have just now finished watching.

      Mormons & Their Secret Temple Rites Exposed

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3cudp3E4Oo

      This video was put up by Ex-Mormons United.

      Some more really creepy stuff.

      The high Mormon priesthood believe that it is NOT a sin to lie. That's why Mitt Romney is such a fucking liar by the town clock! Mitt Romney lies like a piss-soaked wet rug on a shit-house floor!

      And guess what! More and more people are leaving the Mormon church, about 100,000 people every year in the USA and in Europe. It's only in poor countries where people don't have Internet access, only in those poor countries are the Mormon numbers increasing.

      I think that eventually, the Internet is going to destroy the Mormon church. More and more people are also leaving the Catholic church, and more people are coming out of Scientology.

      So, the Internet is becoming a place where religion comes to die!

      Oh! Also please check out another one of my Playlists on my YouTube channel.

      Why Do People Laugh At Creationists?

      https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5DDCFDC70FBCB51D

      This is a series of 40 videos uploaded by Thunderf00t. More videos will probably be added to this series. So, I always keep checking back every few days.

      The Thunderf00t channel actually has more hits than the Vatican channel on YouTube!

      Well, I don't care to even look at the Vatican's YouTube channel, because I'm not interested in hearing any poop from the Pope!

      I also have Playlists dealing with pedophilia in the Catholic church and also in the Whitehouse during the Reagan administration were children have come up missing!

      Did Reagan know about this? I really don't know. Probably not, because he was too stupid!

      And I have a Playlist dealing with the horrors taking place in Scientology. Some more really creep stuff.

      I get depressed for days after watching these videos. But, I feel a moral obligation to favor these videos to my Playlists.

      Also, the more Playlists I put up on my YouTube channel, the more subscribers other channels get when people see how many Playlists I have.

      I have been doing this for over the past two years, staying up late at night, and loosing sleep.

      But, it's a labor of love.


      Teddy Bear

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    3. Holy shit Teddy you did some valuable research on the crazy cult; You can have a field day with those idiots.

      Making people face the truth is a worthwhile mission

      There are a lot of ex Mormons. Truth is a very powerful thing.

      Another great debunker is a you tuber named Dusty Smith at Cult of Dusty. He will promote your work I think. He know the Bible really well and he uses it to bash Christards over their shit filled heads.

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  2. Good evening Fat Bastardo!!!

    Did you know that some Catholics are such retards they'll even lick raw sewage, if they believe that it's the tears from a statue of Jesus Christ?

    I kid you not!!!

    Oh WOW! Like, Jesus wept!!!

    Yeah! A statue of Jesus wept tears of sewage, and some Catholic retards just licked it up!!!

    Here's a link from The Guardian

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/23/india-blasphemy-jesus-tears

    OK, I'm not going to post the entire article. So, I'll just hit the highlights.

    Sanal Edamaruku faces jail for revealing 'tears' trickling down a Mumbai church statue came from clogged drainage pipes.

    A statue of Christ in Mumbai. Local people declared a miracle when 'tears' trickled down the statue at the Church of Our Lady of Velan Kanni.

    When water started trickling down a statue of Jesus Christ at a Catholic church in Mumbai earlier this year, locals were quick to declare a miracle. Some began collecting the holy water and the Church of Our Lady of Velankanni began to promote it as a site of pilgrimage.

    So when Sanal Edamaruku arrived and established that this was not holy water so much as holey plumbing, the backlash was severe. The renowned rationalist was accused of blasphemy, charged with offenses that carry a three-year prison sentence and eventually, after receiving death threats, had to seek exile in Finland.

    Edamaruku, who has the support of rationalists and atheists such as Richard Dawkins, is well known in India for debunking religious myths, and was already unpopular among Indian Catholics for publicly criticizing Mother Teresa's legacy in Kolkata.

    When the state "miracle" was pronounced, he went to Mumbai and found that the dripping water was due to clogged drainage pipes behind the wall where it stood. His revelation provoked death threats from religious zealots and ultimately charges of blasphemy under the Indian penal code in the Mumbai high court.

    WOW! Holy shit!!!

    I hope all those idiots get cholera or some other infectious disease from the e-coli intestinal bacteria, and DIE slow painful deaths.

    Hey, we need to set up weeping statues of Jesus or Mary all over the world, all weeping tears of sewage, and let all the retard lick it up!

    OK, just thinking about this in enough to make me gag!

    I have a big stomach, but I don't have a strong stomach!

    So, I'm going to take some Alka Seltzer in some Canada Dry Lemon Lime Seltzer water to settle my stomach.

    I'll need to lay down after reading about this holy shit!

    I think I'm gonna be sick!


    Teddy Bear

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  3. The major churches all have corporate ties and as anyone with a brain knows corporations own the government. The churches are there to keep people stupid. As absurd as Christianity is Mormonism is even more absurd. Mormons are bigger shepple lemmings than many fundie Baptists aka Batwits.

    Keeping the masses stupid makes it easier to keep them oppressed.

    People have been eating shit sandwiches for centuries and the biggest and stinkiest shit sandwich is religion. Nothing good ever comes of religion.

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    1. Good evening Fat Bastardo:

      Well, I'm back.

      After having posted my last comment about the retarded Catholic sewage suckers, I got sick to my stomach, and I had to take some Alka Seltzer and lay down for awhile.

      As I have said before . . . I have a big stomach, but I don't have a strong stomach, especially not for such moronic retardation.

      Well . . . ya know . . . Jesus did instruct his disciples to eat of his flesh and drink of his blood! Right?

      And . . . . . these retards just took it a few steps further and sucked his cum, drank his piss and ate his shit!

      Hell . . . why not? The more of Jesus they have in them, the better! Right?

      Yeah! Religion, as you have said, is sponsored by the big corporations.

      But here's what I find most ironic . . . . .

      If a big oil company or a big coal company wants to explore for new sources of oil or coal, or if a nuclear power plant want's to explore for new sources of uranium, etc. etc. they consult a professional geologist. The geologist tells them how old the rock layers are, and where to drill or dig.

      So, these corporations consult a professional geologist, a real scientist, who says the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and NOT some so-called "creation scientist" who believes the earth is only 6000 years old. Right?

      And yet, the part I find most ironic . . . . . these big corporations support the Republican party, made up of mostly anti-science Christard Funny-mentalists who are against teaching science in our public schools.

      So . . . where and how in the flying fucking Hootenanny in Hell are we going to get our future scientists???

      Not from American schools, that's for hot diggity damn sure!

      We discovered that it's much cheaper to put up a few basketball hoops and buy football jerseys and helmets than it is to equip biology, physics, and chemistry labs in our schools.

      And for those science nerds and techno-geeks who don't care for sports, or for physically handicapped students who can't do sports anyway . . . well . . . . . fuck 'em! They can just mop floors, scrub toilets, beg groceries, or wear a three-cornered paper hats and flip burgers for minimum wage for the rest of their lives, and get told by the big corporations to eat less and not heat their homes.

      But, in the meantime . . . we can just import well educated science nerds and techno-geeks in from overseas to keep our wheels turning, the lights on, and the water flowing.

      Well, the Christards, they can just lick raw sewage flowing from weeping statues of Jesus or Mary!

      No wonder the USA has become the laughing stock of the world.


      Teddy Bear

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  4. All the Jesus shit actually goes back to 2000 years before Christ. Jesus was a con artist. The Jesus story of the virgin birth, death and resurrection are shared by 10 other mythical figures. My favorite is Attis of Phrygia. He was born of a the Virgin Nana on the 25th. Jesus was born in June.

    The Bible is shit and its believers are also shit.

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    1. All religion is bullshit!

      A Muslim believes when he dies, he'll go to paradise and get 72 virgins, or some shit like that.

      But, I have to give Mitt Romney some credit. As a Mormon, he's struck a much better deal! When he dies, he'll get his own planet to rule and a million wives.

      OK, what happens after a Muslim has fucked all 72 of his virgins, and they're not virgins anymore? Well, I guess he's screwed for the rest of eternity.

      As for Mitt Romney . . . well, he's also fucked. Imagine having to change millions of shitty diapers every day for all eternity!

      Either way, it's still a bad deal.


      Teddy Bear

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    2. The Mormons get a better deal than the Muslims. All Christians get is to sit around for all eternity and massage God's insatiable ego.

      Maybe the Muslim virgins get their pussies retreaded so that they can go through the pain of being deflowered for eternity. That sounds very Islamic,

      I don't think Romney will be changing diapers. He'll probably hire some illegal Mexicans to do that. That is his modus operande.

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    3. Good evening Fat Bastardo!

      I have read somewhere in the Bible that a man with damaged testicles can not enter the kingdom of God.

      I wonder if there is anything like that in the Book of Mormon. There probably is, but I don't know where to find it.

      But . . . if there is, then I thought of the perfect punishment to inflict on Mitt Romney.

      Smash his testicles!

      Then he would not be able to enter God's kingdom after he dies, and he won't get his own planet to rule, and he won't get his million wives.

      Instead, he will be bound for HELL!!!

      Assuming, that is what Mitt Romney believes.

      Yeah! That would be perfect!

      He will spend the rest of his life living in constant fear, and terror, knowing that he is Hell-bound!

      It will drive him absolutely insane!

      Gee! Sometimes, I can be a real unmitigated prick!


      Teddy Bear

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    4. If God is fair and just Romney is already hell bound.

      If a man is wounded in the stones he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven but then the bible says eunuchs go to heaven. God is always contradicting himself. Republicans like that because they are always looking for loopholes.

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  5. Good morning Fat Bastardo:

    Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I was favoring some more videos to my latest Playlist titled, Penn & Teller BULLSHIT! It now have 80 video favored to it.

    Well, it seems to me that the big three religions, Catholics, Mormons, and other Christian denominations are all competing to see who can be the most evil.

    Ever hear of William Lane Craig?

    Here is some of the most idiot comments he has ever made during his discussions.

    "Though animals are in pain, they aren't aware of it. They don't have this third order pain awareness. They are not aware of pain, and therefore they do not suffer as human beings do. Now, this is a tremendous comfort to those of us who are animal lovers, like myself, or to pet owners. Even though your dog or your cat may be in pain, it isn't really aware of being in pain, and therefore it doesn't suffer as you would when you are in pain."

    Oh! Really???

    I had a cat, and one day, while I was cleaning up my bedroom, as I was moving my bed to sweep around it, I accidentally stepped on my cat's tail, and he mmmeeeeeooooowed out really loud. I cried myself. It was unintentional, it could happen to anyone. So, nobody can tell me that animals are not aware of the pain they feel.

    William Lane Craig should not be allowed to have any pets or even any children of his own.

    Here is some more fucking retarded comments by this contemptible cock sucker!

    "Moreover, if we believe, as I do, that God's grace is extended to those who die in infancy or as small children, the death of these children was actually their salvation. We are so wedded to an earthly, naturalistic perspective that we forget that those who die are happy to quit this earth for heaven's incomparable joy. Therefore, God does these children no wrong in taking their lives. So whom does God wrong in commanding the destruction of the Canaanites? Not the Canaanite adults, for they were corrupt and deserving of judgment. Not the children, for they inherit eternal life. So who is wronged? Ironically, I think the most difficult part of this whole debate is the apparent wrong done to the Israeli soldiers themselves. Can you imagine what it would be like to have to break into some house and kill a terrified woman and her children? The brutalizing effect on these Israeli soldiers is disturbing."

    So, he actually believes that if innocent little children are murdered, it is not a tragedy, because of their innocence, they go directly to heaven. Therefore, when little children get killed, it is their salvation!

    Oh! Really???

    This has got to be the very worst thing I have ever heard any right-wing Christard Funny-mentalist say!

    Not even Mitt Romney would stoop that low!!!

    And these are the idiots who would like to control what is being taught in our schools???

    OK, it's getting late. I can't say anything more right now. I'll get back to you later on this.

    It's getting past 3:00 AM where I'm at, and I need to log some sack time.

    I'll probably have nightmares tonight!


    Teddy Bear

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    1. If Christians could not lie they could not talk.

      I was just about to post a video by Sam Harris - Morality and the Christian God.

      Animals suffer. I have seen it and it makes me hate God even more.

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    2. Hell, even Hitler was against cruelty to animals!

      But he was still a real prick when it came to not giving a shit about human beings, not even women and children.

      So, on that score, both Hitler and Harris are in the same ballpark!

      Whoops! Did I just use a sports euphemism?

      Well, as long as were doing sports, then . . . . .

      I wish I could slam-dunk Harris' head into the toilet, and drop-kick his God damn fucking ass over the moon!


      Teddy Bear

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    3. I like sports metaphors so I will use some I'd like to sack him and put him out of the game or give him a little sweet chin music.

      It's par for the course with slime like him. I'd like to have a ring side seat to you drop kicking him to the moon. I would love to see a fat guy like you get him in your wheelhouse and put him down for the count.

      It makes me sick that the Mormon Church is running interference for this bum.

      Teddy, there are people worse than Hitler. We call them Republicans. Hitler simply was able to get away with more evil than then the other scumbags.

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  6. Good evening Fat Bastardo:

    Yeah! If I were to meet this William Lane Craig in person, I would take out my hard red cherry-wood cane and send his teeth flying across the room, and he lower jaw swinging around to the back of his neck!

    Then, for the rest of his life, he'll have to suck mush through a straw!

    You're the the Fat Bastard, I'm a Fat BITCH!!!


    Teddy Bear

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    1. Back to sports metaphors:

      I'd like to see Arnold Palmer tee off on his balls.

      I'd like to see Big Daddy Don Garlits do a burn out on his scrotum.

      I'd like to see the Rock send him to the Smackdown Hotel.

      I'd like to see you run over his nuts with your Jazzy and then I'd like to see you play a little power chair polo with his nut sack.

      The Mormon church is even more culpable in this than most people realize. I'd like to see the LDS church sued into bankruptcy.

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    2. I'd like to see you put your cigar out in his eye.

      Yes Teddy, I am a bastard who stands up for the good folks fat and skinny.

      This prick is just one of many corporate gangsters who needs to end up doing hard time.

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  7. Good morning Fat Bastardo;

    I guess you know about the recent debate between Bill Nye (The Science Guy) and Ken Ham (Canned Ham) at the Creation Museum in Kentucky.

    I didn't get a chance to see the debate live. So, in order to watch in on YouTube, I had to go to the Answers in Genesis channel to watch it. Ken Ham is, after all, the founder of Answers in Genesis. So, I guess it's his playground and it's his show.

    OK, to their credit, nothing was edited out of the recorded version. I got to see the debate in it's entirety. It was over 2 hours long.

    But, to their discredit, comment posting under the video was disabled, and so was the ratings.

    Of course, how do you rate something like that? It's not possible for to give Bill Nye a thumbs up and also give Ken Ham a thumbs down.

    So, it was probably for the best that ratings were disabled. But, rather cowardly of them that comment posting was also disabled.

    About all the bleating moronic sheep can do, is just to nod their wooly little heads in agreement to Ken Ham, and about all I could do is clap my hands in agreement to Bill Nye, and in response to Ken Ham, all I could do is get really pissed off and mad enough to eat my cigar!

    Also, there is a lot of disagreement on the Internet, in some NEWS articles, as to who won the debate.

    Most of them are saying that Ken Ham won the debate. I wish I could get the actual statistics in some kind of poll.

    I say that Bill Nye should have won the debate, because of his honesty, and he had the scientific facts on his side. He should have been able to serve Ken Ham's bitch-ass up to him on a silver platter!

    But, if Ken Ham won the debate, that is only because most of the audience there were moronic bleating sheep who prefer listening to their own brand of Creationist fairy tales from the BUY-BULL!!!

    Anyway . . . . .

    You'll never get me to go into a Creationist Museum, because I can't stand the smell of retarded moronic sheep and cattle!

    I imagine that Bill Nye had to take a shower when he got home and burn his clothes to get rid of the smell of ignorance.

    Personally, I think Bill Nye just wasted his valuable time in a two hour debate with a moron like Ken Ham.


    Teddy Bear

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    1. Truth wins so Nye won.

      I heard the the creationist museum is going out of business.

      Here is one where you can leave comments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu67S1g05Vo

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    2. Here is another video of Ken Hambone getting destroyed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu67S1g05Vo

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  8. Good evening Fat Bastardo!!!

    Thank you very much for the YouTube link.

    And while I was there, I found this YouTube video.

    Bill Nye debates Ken Ham FULL - Comments Enabled
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9yQEG7mlTU

    YouTube user name - islandonlinenews

    Uh! He's another Christian nut-job. I checked out his channel page, and he has all kinds of videos with whacked out conspiracy theories.

    But . . . . . at least he has the common decency to allow comment posting under his videos.

    So, I have to give him some credit. And he won't block anyone who disagrees with him. So, I guess he's OK, and not a total douche-bag. He's just a harmless nut case.

    Anyway . . . . .

    Getting back to Ken Ham, or (Canned Ham) again . . .

    Go to . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

    To quote briefly from the article . . .

    "Ham questions the reliability of radiometric dating, a technique used to date objects such as moon rocks, fossils and human artifacts. Since 1989, Ham has frequently made the comment, 'Were you there?' regarding the origins of life and evolution, implying that knowledge of un-witnessed events requires direct observation rather than inference."

    And more . . .

    "Talk.origins responded that the evidence for evolution 'was there' and asserted the necessity to continue scientific inquiry with the claim being made that 'If this response were a valid challenge to evolution, it would equally invalidate creationism and Christianity, since they are based on events that nobody alive today has witnessed'."

    WOW! Don't ya just love the "you weren't there" argument???

    To be continued below . . . . .

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    1. . . . . . Continued from above . . . . .

      Yeah! Getting back to the "you weren't there" argument . . .

      OK, imagine a crime scene. A murder has been committed in a private residence somewhere out in the country, and there is no eye-witness to the this most horrific crime.

      You are a forensic crime scene investigator. You see a dead body on the living-room floor laying in a pool of blood, a really gruesome scene! So, you dust for finger prints, collect blood samples, look for strands of hair, and collecting DNA samples, etc. etc, anything that might yield a clue.

      Then all the evidence is taken to a crime lab, and the DNA samples and fingerprints might reveal the identity of the perpetrator, if the fingerprints or DNA is on file.

      If not, you look for possible suspects, taking DNA samples and fingerprints from each suspect, and checking it thoroughly until you have identified the murderer.

      Well . . . for whoever it is, the jig is up!

      The perpetrator confessed. The case goes to trial, and the prosecution presents the scientifically collected evidence to the court.

      But the defense attorney gets up and shouts, I OBJECT! How do you know my client, the accused, committed the crime? WERE YOU THERE? Did you witness the crime?

      Now supposing the judge is a Christian Fundamentalist. (We do have them, ya know!) He rejects the scientific evidence, and dismissed the case, and the perpetrator goes free, because there was no eye-witness to the crime.

      That is Ken Ham's attitude toward evolution.

      Because there was no human eye-witness to evolution billions of years ago, no human eye-witness to the asteroid collision with the earth 60 million years ago, contributing to the extinction of dinosaurs, then, Ken Ham assumes the evolution is false because there was no living human eye-witness.

      If that's how our courts operate, no wonder American justice is all fucked up!

      Well, most of the time our courts don't operate that way.

      But when you have incompetent judges and attorneys, and prejudice juries, then . . . . . you're fucked.

      Geology, evolutionary biology, paleontology, etc. etc. are actually forensic sciences. When scientists examine the skulls of our humanoid ancestors, for example: sometimes you'll find things that will bring tears to your eyes.

      For example: a 2 million year old skull of one of our humanoid ancestors, a small child, that bore the claw marks of a large predatory bird.

      This was once described in a lecture by Richard Dawkins, and I could here a bit of a tremor in his voice when he describe the fate of this little child.

      Also, the average life expectancy of our early ancestors was about 20 to 30 years. Very few lived to old age. Some of the ancient sculls show that death was caused by an abscessed tooth, a rather painful way to die. And some ancient skeletons show evidence of death from other diseased and even incidents of violence.

      Yeah, paleontology is a science that will sometimes bring tears to your eyes. It is a forensic science. We know what murdered the dinosaurs, and about 90 percent of the life on this planet 60 million years ago.

      There have been several major extinction events on this planet during the past 4.5 billion years.

      So, contrary to what Christian Fundamentalists believe, there was death in this world, long long long before we humans arrived on the scene. Millions of years before we were here, big dinosaurs were eating little dinosaurs for breakfast!!!

      And NO! We are not born in sin!

      We are born innocent!


      Teddy Bear

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    2. Ham is an evil man working for a evil forces commonly referred to as God.

      Christians deny facts and reality. The is a prerequisite to being a Christian.

      I know a Christard who says that dinosaur bone were put there by Satan to confuse Christians. People like that need to put a gun in their mouths.

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    3. This jerk Hambone has less education in sceince than both of us.

      Ken Ham earned a Bachelor of Applied Science, with an emphasis in Environmental Biology, at Queensland Institute of Technology and a diploma in Education from the University of Queensland.

      He has a bachelors in applied science. That means he had 8 or 10 classes in physics, biology or chemistry. You and I have more education than that.

      He has been awarded two honorary degrees: In 1997 from Temple Baptist College in Cincinnati, Ohio and in 2004 from Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia.

      The guy is a fraud. A complete and total fraud. He has less education in science than a high school science teacher. He has a lot of bullshit and more than enough to fool stupid Christards.

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  9. Good morning Fat Bastardo;

    Well . . . . . I'm afraid I have some sad news here, that I must share.

    One of my many favorite YouTube channels has been terminated.

    AtheistClone

    I had favored 33 of his videos to one of my Playlists, the Lectures of Colonel Robert Green Ingersoll.

    Last night, when I checked my Playlist, I discovered that all 33 of his videos had been deleted.

    Then I went to the AtheistClone channel page, and discovered that his YouTube channel has been terminated, because of some stupid copyright violation claim.

    NO! These were LibriVox audio-book recordings.

    Anyone can sign on as a member of LibriVox and download the necessary software to record your voice reading from a book, then you can upload your audio-books to your channel.

    Apparently the BBC have also got their panties in a bunch.

    But these LibriVox recordings have nothing to do with BBC.

    This sucks!

    It's probably Christian Fundamentalist retards filing more of their false DMCA claims because they don't like atheist channels.

    I have been going to some of my other favorite channels, Edward Tart the ex-priest who became an atheist, OldFartRants, a 63 year old hippie who lives in California, and WildwoodClaire (Coffee With Claire) a retired geologist who live in North Carolina. So, I'm spreading the word around to my YouTube buddies to let them know what been going down.

    I worked hard on that Playlist. It took me over a week to finish it. I sat up late at night until the wee hours of the morning listening to each and every audio-book recording before favoring them to my Playlist. I lost a lot of sleep. But, it was a labor of love.

    Imagine how hard AtheistClone must have worked, building up his channel. It must have taken him many weeks or even months to create all of his videos. He had many other uploaded videos and Playlists in addition to his Robert Green Ingersoll videos.

    Back in 2012, me and some other YouTube members helped TruthSurge, because his channel had come under attack, and he was suspended for a couple of weeks because of multiple down-thumbs by Creationists vote-bots.

    After his suspension was finally lifted, he had made a request, and gave other users permission to MIRROR his videos.

    So, I had downloaded most of his videos to my hard drive, and re-uploaded them to MIRROR on my channel.

    In the description under each TruthSurge video, is says Uploaded by BigFatHeretic. But I made sure to add, ORIGINALLY UPLOADED by TruthSurge, because I didn't want to take credit for another man's work.

    Also, I disabled ratings to protect those videos from multiple down-thumbs by Creationist vote-bots, while still allowing comment posting so that viewers can express their opinions.

    And I lost many a nights sleep working on that.

    But, I'm happy to do this, because, as I have said, it's a labor of love.


    Teddy Bear

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  10. That's sad to hear. Christians love censorship.

    One of my favorite atheists is Dusty Smith with the Cult of Dusty they have been screwing with him and with the Amazing Atheist.

    As you know, I started Bigger Fatter Politics in part because the angry NAAFA man hating fat girls flagged Bigger Fatter Blog. They hated the fact that I, Fat Bastardo accused them of ruining NAAFA and the fat rights movement. The truth hurts and like the said in the movie A Few Good Men, they can't handle the truth.

    Turns out I was right. Even Kate Harding of Shapely Prose quit the movement. We fat assed guys are OK with being fat but those girls not can't handle the truth, they can't handle the fat.

    Christians can't handle the truth either. I use the Bible to bash the Bible. If more people read the Bible there would be less Christians.

    If you have a video that has both a religious and political theme I would happy to display it. I got 1700 page views yesterday.

    I would also be happy to write an article on you the BIG FAT HERETIC! Please feel free to email me some suggestions.

    www.GodisHate.blogspot.com Check it out! El takes no prisoners!

    Keep sticking it to those fuckers!

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    1. One more thing, there is something called the Fair Use Doctrine that allows people to post parts of other people's work.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

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