Tuesday, December 2, 2014

Darren Wilson Lied



There is not a mark on this murderer. If Brown hit him it wasn't hard and it was probably in self defense.
The St. Louis county officials released photos of Officer Darren Wilson after his altercation with Michael Brown.

We've finally heard from Officer Darren Wilson.
Wilson had been publicly silent since the events of August 9, when he shot and killed 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. And, even as the grand jury announced its decision not to indict him, he remained silent. He had his attorneys release a statement on his behalf.
But on Monday night, St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch released the evidence given to the grand jury, including the interview police did with Wilson in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. And so we got to read, for the first time, Wilson's full, immediate account of his altercation with Brown.
And it is unbelievable.
I mean that in the literal sense of the term: "difficult or impossible to believe." But I want to be clear here. I'm not saying Wilson is lying. I'm not saying his testimony is false. I am saying that the events, as he describes them, are simply bizarre. His story is difficult to believe.
The story Wilson tells goes like this:
At about noon on August 9th, Wilson hears on the radio that there's a theft in progress at the Ferguson Market. The suspect is a black male in a black shirt.
Moments later, Wilson sees two young black men walking down the yellow stripe in the center of the street. He pulls over. "Hey guys, why don't you walk on the sidewalk?" They refuse. "We're almost at our destination," one of them replies. Wilson tries again. "But what's wrong with the sidewalk?" he asks.
And then things get weird.
Brown's response to "what's wrong with the sidewalk?", as recorded by Wilson, is "fuck what you have to say." Remember, Wilson is a uniformed police officer, in a police car, and Brown is an 18-year-old kid who just committed a robbery. And when asked to use the sidewalk, Wilson says Brown replied, "Fuck what you have to say."
Wilson backs his car up and begins to open the door. "Hey, come here," he said to the kid who just cursed at him. He says Brown replied, "What the fuck you gonna do?" And then Brown, in Wilson's telling, slams the car door closed. Wilson tries to open the door again, tells Brown to get back, and then Brown leans into the vehicle and begins punching him.
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Photos surround Michael Brown's casket in Ferguson, MO. (Richard Perry-Pool/Getty Images)
Let's take a breath and recap. Wilson sees two young black men walking in the middle of the street. He pulls over and politely asks them to use the sidewalk. They refuse. He asks again, still polite. Brown tells Wilson — again, a uniformed police officer in a police car — "fuck what you have to say." Wilson stops his car, tries to get out, and Brown slams the car door on him and then begins punching him through the open window.
What happens next is the most unbelievable moment in the narrative. And so it's probably best that I just quote Wilson's account at length on it.
I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand.
So Brown is punching inside the car. Wilson is scrambling to deflect the blows, to protect his face, to regain control of the situation. And then Brown stops, turns to his left, says to his friend, "Here, hold these," and hands him the cigarillos stolen from Ferguson Market. Then he turns back to Wilson and, with his left hand now freed from holding the contraband goods, throws a haymaker at Wilson.
Every bullshit detector in me went off when I read that passage. Which doesn't mean that it didn't happen exactly the way Wilson describes. But it is, again, hard to imagine. Brown, an 18-year-old kid holding stolen goods, decides to attack a cop and, while attacking him, stops, hands his stolen goods to his friend, and then returns to the beatdown. It reads less like something a human would do and more like a moment meant to connect Brown to the robbery.
Wilson next recounts his thought process as he reached for a weapon. He considered using his mace, but at such close range, the mace might get in his eyes, too. He doesn't carry a taser with a fireable cartridge, but even if he did, "it probably wouldn't have hit [Brown] anywhere". Wilson couldn't reach his baton or his flashlight. So he went for his gun.
Brown sees him go for the gun. And he replies: "You're too much of a fucking pussy to shoot me."
Again, stop for a moment and think about that. Brown is punching Wilson, sees the terrified cop reaching for his gun, and says "You're too much of a fucking pussy to shoot me." He dares him to shoot.
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A protestors holds up a sign saying "don't shoot". (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
And then Brown grabs Wilson's gun, twists it, and points it at Wilson's "pelvic area". Wilson regains control of the firearm and gets off a shot, shattering the glass. Brown backs up a half step and, realizing he's unharmed, dives back into the car to attack Wilson. Wilson fires again, and then Brown takes off running. (You can see the injuries Wilson sustained from the fight in these photographs.)
Wilson exits the car to give chase. He yells at Brown to get down on the ground. Here, I'm going to go back to Wilson's words:
When he stopped, he turned, looked at me, made like a grunting noise and had the most intense, aggressive face I've ever seen on a person. When he looked at me, he then did like the hop...you know, like people do to start running. And, he started running at me. During his first stride, he took his right hand put it under his shirt into his waistband. And I ordered him to stop and get on the ground again. He didn't. I fired multiple shots. After I fired the multiple shots, I paused a second, yelled at him to get on the ground again, he was still in the same state. Still charging, hand still in his waistband, hadn't slowed down.
The stuff about Brown putting his hand in his waistband is meant to suggest that Wilson had reason to believe Brown might pull a gun. But it's strange. We know Brown didn't have a gun. And that's an odd fact to obscure while charging a police officer.
Either way, at that point, Wilson shoots again, and kills Brown.
There are inconsistencies in Wilson's story. He estimates that Brown ran 20-30 feet away from the car and then charged another 10 feet back towards Wilson. But we know Brown died 150 feet away from the car.
There are also consistencies. St Louis prosecutor Robert McCulloch said that Brown's DNA was found inside Wilson's car, suggesting there was a physical altercation inside the vehicle. We know shots were fired from inside the car. We know Brown's bullet wounds show he was only hit from the front, never from the back.
But the larger question is, in a sense, simpler: Why?
Why did Michael Brown, an 18-year-old kid headed to college, refuse to move from the middle of the street to the sidewalk? Why would he curse out a police officer? Why would he attack a police officer? Why would he dare a police officer to shoot him? Why would he charge a police officer holding a gun? Why would he put his hand in his waistband while charging, even though he was unarmed?
None of this fits with what we know of Michael Brown. Brown wasn't a hardened felon. He didn't have a death wish. And while he might have been stoned, this isn't how stoned people act. The toxicology report did not indicate he was on PCP or something that would've led to suicidal aggression.
Which doesn't mean Wilson is a liar. Unbelievable things happen every day. The fact that his story raises more questions than it answers doesn't mean it isn't true.
But the point of a trial would have been to try to answer these questions. We would have either found out if everything we thought we knew about Brown was wrong, or if Wilson's story was flawed in important ways. But now we're not going to get that chance. We're just left with Wilson's unbelievable story.
More: Michael Brown spent his last day with his friend Dorian Johnson. Johnson was also there when Officer Wilson stopped Brown. 
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47 comments:

  1. I agree Walter, most of Darren Wilson's testimony was BS. The feds with get him for perjury.

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  2. I guess THE FACT that Dorian Johnson ALSO stated that they were the AGGRESSORS means nothing to this guy! Dorian Johnson stated the SAME. FACTS to the GJ, admitting that he not only LIED about the Cop rolling up to these 2 alter boys, but that he went home to change his clothes so that the Police wouldn't connect him to the robbery!! So, what have you to say now?? That Dorian Johnson is also a LIAR when he went on National Tv and stated that "We wasn't doing nothing, and this Racist Cop rolled up on us and told us to get the F out of the road and we replied "but sir, we live just over there, we won't be but a moment I the street" and then he stated that the Officer got mad and slammed the door on Mikey, which it bounced off of and mad the guy even madder"!!! But, to the GJ, Dorian stated "we was laughing about the robbery, and the cop asked us nicely to get out of the street and Mikey replied "F what you got to say"!!! Dorian also stated that "they WERE the aggressors! were mouthing off and thought it was funny", that MIkey, DID, IN FACT assault the Cop in his car, that his hands were NOT raised in surrender".... Before you perpetuate more lies, maybe you ought check into Dorians testimony also!! And not the BS he spouted on CNN, but what he stated to the GJ!!!!! Dorian Johnson stated that "The O fiver spoke to us like a Father speaks to his Son, and we were mad because he did spoke to us like that"!!!!!!!!!

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  3. He, Mike. Brown did not have PCP in his system, but he DID have high levels of THC!! Also, "waxing" was brought up a dozen or more times!! Not known, proven or disapproved IF Mike had "waxed"....

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  4. What does that have to do with the fact that Wilson perjured himself. If he had high levels of THC then he would have been docile and hostile. This is more proof that Wilson gunned him down on cold blood. People high on pot are docile.

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  5. And Little Boy Mikey was just hugging that store keeper? Right?? Yeah, I guess so Bubba!!

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  6. Wow, posting an email address... What a ignorant F! Also sighting MSNBC report from 3 days AFTER he lied, and NOT the testimony Dorian Johnson gave to the GJ is really idiotic, especially since Dorian ADMITTED that HE lied! So, since it was stated on News Channels across the Globe, his statement that he lied, they can have at it as attempting to sue!!
    Now, had I known your site was such garbage and hateful spewing racism, I would never had commented in the first place. I don't usually write to loose nuts, nor respond to them. Dealing with those with SFB syndrome is tiresome and beneath me. Best of luck to you on your planet. Good bye!

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  7. This obvious TROLL site should be shut down for its Offensive writings, ramblings! Offensive language and complete disregard of human decency, violation of privacy and Rantings of lewd/foul lies!! PLEASE!, People, DO NOT comment here!! Fair warnings being given to the General Public - site is managed by a Lunatic Troll!

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  8. You need to change your name to :BigFatWhineyBaby"!!

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  9. You need to change your attitude before someone kicks you in the balls!

    No, wait! You don't have any!

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  10. Dr Bear, thank you for your detective work on this and your always brilliant insight and erudition.


    As to the troll Too Rotten, I am turning him over to the authorities and they will be reading his previous rantings and I suspect they will find some terroristic threats. The NSA may even already have a file on him.


    I think that the IQ chart came from a Psychology Today article but I am not certain.


    148 feet away is about 1/2 a football field. That is way past the accuracy range for the average pistol shot even for a cop ans especially for a cop under stress. Cops are decent shooters but with these semi autos they miss a lot. At that range Wilson hit Brown with every shot and that is the sign of a calm and cool shooter. This looks an execution plain and simple.


    I am not here to defend Brown's reputation because he did do a strong arm robbery but he did not deserve to be executed for it and when the racist trash lie about the facts of the case simply to hurt his family and besmirch the African Americans I will react and bring the full force of the legal system against them. This article and thread will be doing to LRJ TV, Tommy Sotomayor, The Advise Show, World Star Hip Hop, the Urban League, the Black Panthers, and the DOJ and Eric Holder.


    I am often critical of Obama but when trash like Too Rotten lie about him with their vulgar racist comment it not only hurts Michelle, Sasha and Malia it hurts America and since I am a patriot I am forced by conscience to defend the United States of America from racist subversives and since I have taken the oath to the constitution I have no choice.


    As you know Dr Bear, I am a fair minded guy and I have given Too Rotten and opportunity to repent and confess his sins and clearly he has squandered this opportunity. Mouth breathing shit talking hatriots like Too Rotten are so hate filled that their all consuming hate clouds any truth that may come their way.


    Once again, thank you for your insight and sleuthing on the matter. Your patriotism and citizenship is indeed inspiring.

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  11. Now now Dr Bear, be nice to the mentally defective. LOL! Actually tear this POS a new one Dr Bear style!

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  12. I had you writing style examined by a forensic expert of mine and based on your style and excessive punctuation, phrases and use of upper case letter she thinks you are either a histrionic narcissistic woman or a latent homosexual and child molester. Professor Bear thinks that you are probably a pedophile but I think you are a fat girl with a yeast infection.

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  13. Or I. Could be a black female that isn't falling for inner city BS shoved down the throat by whites filled with misplaced guilt. Maybe I am the reincarnated MLK. Or maybe I am a nice old lady with 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 kids that thinks that people ought be responsible for their actions and behaviors. Not allowing self pity of generations long gone keep me down. Maybe I am a football player that stood on the field with my hands up. Or maybe I am a BOY with my pants hanging about my ass thinking, "I'll go get me some pot to smoke, hang out and wait for my welfare check", maybe I am from Ferguson and don't like what's going down, too many people that know nothing, wanna be important, get their "street cred" but don't know nuffin about nuffin ignorance spouting fools... Maybe I am a poor black kid from California or a Rich black woman from Co., maybe I. Hold a PHD in Dentistry or a Veterinarian from Ohio. Maybe. Believe in raising sheep on a farm..... Maybe I couldn't care less about the. Lack Panthers, maybe I like Rush Limbaugh, or maybe I am a Reverend from Boston, lesbian and black.... Either/or, I don't rightly give a crap about your BS lies of having a specialist check my writings. Have at it enjoy it, disregard it or not.... Whatever. I honestly could care less about what you think or feel about me. You mean less than Jack. And your opinion of me means less than Jacks feces. I have my faith, that IS all I Need. I don't need your vile, repulsive, obnoxious, childish and ignorant lies. There is only 1 opinion I care about, in the end I will be judged by him. THAT is who's voice matters, who's opinion matters and who I follow! You are nothing, but he will judge you fairly just the same.

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  14. Wow, you eat with that mouth? Guess your momma never taught you manner nor how to be civilized. You need more God in your life! Check out a real Reverend, Rev. Gentry, he speaks the truth! You could learn a LOT. From him.

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  15. In response to Too Rotten:

    Oh yeah! Pastor Johnathan Gentry! I've been checking him out.

    He's just another right-wing radical, and a walking contradiction, like a Jewish Nazi, or a black Klansman!

    Racial profiling is a fact! Police do it all the time.

    OK, let me talk about Neil deGrasse Tyson, the black astrophysicist. He grew up in the Bronx. He never committed any crimes, and he was an excellent student when he was in high school and college, and eventually got his PhD in Astrophysics. I like to call him The Black Carl Sagan, because he even had his own version of COSMOS - Spacetime Odyssey on TV.

    His family lived in the Skyview Apartments, a 20 story high-rise in the Bronx, which was public housing.

    When he was a teenager, his parents bought hm a really nice telescope, and he would set it up on the roof of the apartment building.

    Someone would call the police, saying that there was a suspicious looking black burglar on the roof of the building. But when the cops got there, it was only some black teenager setting up his telescope.

    Neil deGrasse Tyson mentions that he could have been at risk of being shot.

    He had been racially profiled on several occasions.

    Yeah! Driving while black. Shopping at a department store while black. Doing Astronomy on the rooftop with a telescope while black.

    I suggest you check out this website at . . . . .

    We Got A Badass Over Here: Doctor Neil deGrasse Tyson, Science and Social Responsibility

    Let me quote from the website . . . . .

    "In junior high school, frequent nighttime trips with telescopes to the apartment rooftop often lead to uninformed neighbors calling the police to report suspicious behavior. But, each time the police came out, they would be placated by a look through the curious young man’s telescope. For all I know, I would have been shot to death on numerous occasions were it not for the majesty of the night sky."

    And here's more from the website . . . . .

    “At no time was I perceived as a future colleague, although this privilege was enjoyed by others in graduate school. When combined with the dozens of times I have been stopped and questioned by the police for going to and from my office after hours, and the hundreds of times I am followed by security guards in department stores, and the countless times people cross the street upon seeing me approach them on the sidewalk, I can summarize my life’s path by noting the following: in the perception of society, my athletic talents are genetic; I am a likely mugger-rapist; my academic failures are expected; and my academic successes are attributed to others.”

    Well . . . his academic success is not to be attributed to others. He had achieved his academic success through his own efforts. Yeah, strangers on the streets felt intimidated by his presence, probably because of his size, being 6 ft. 2 in. tall and weighing probably around 290 pounds.

    He could kick your ass up between your shoulder-blades with one of his Size 13 boots!!!

    Yeah! Racist bigots are afraid of blacks, especially large black men.

    Anyway . . . . .

    Neil deGrasse Tyson is an atheist, so he does not need to listen to the likes of Pastor Johnathan Gentry, nor do any other black person.

    Blacks need to escape from the slimy clutches of religion!

    Pastor Johnathan Gentry, is what I, and many blacks that I know, would call an Oreo Cookie!

    Black on the outside and white on the inside!

    And whites, and black Oreo Cookies, like Pastor Gentry, have been enslaving blacks for years

    Young blacks need to listen to someone like Niel deGrasse Tyson and not some Christian Fundie retard like Pastor Johnathan Gentry.

    Yeah! Pastor Gentry can just sit on top of a church steeple, like, sit and spin, and shove it up his ass until it pokes out through the top of his fucking skull!

    He's just another slave master who enslaves his own people!

    Yeah! An Oreo Cookie!


    Big Fat Heretic

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  16. SMH,
    Let go of the hate bro, just let it go.

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  17. You have talked shit about Obama on other sites. STOP LYING!

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  18. People with a good God in their lives don't go on the internet and trash a dead young man and tell lies about how he was gunned down. Your God is that psychopath in the Bible and the Bible is bullshit and only a fool thinks other wise. If you would like to debate scripture with me I would swamp you. I know they Bible very well and that is why I know it is bullshit. I actually read the Bible and you have not.


    Gentry is a POS along the lines of Sperman Herman Cain and Reverend Ike. He's talking shit about Sharpton yet he cannot point to one thing that Sharpton said or did that was out of line. Gentry is sellout and you know it but your hatred of non whites has poisoned you to the point that you are beyond redemption.


    OK liar how about you quote one of Sharpton's statements regarding the slaying of Michael Brown that was out of line. You can't because there aren't any. Gentry couldn't do it and neither can you so he lied and distorted and implied that Sharpton did something wrong. Liars do what you do. They make fact free statements followed by prevarications and innuendo. That's how you liars operate. If you didn't lie and distort you bastards would have nothing to say and nothing to contribute.

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  19. Oh! So now you're the ambassador of peace and love now, like, all hearts and flowers! Really?

    Listen good, and listen tight, ya fuck-wad!!!

    It's these Christian Fundie fuck-tards, both black and white, especially white, who are ruining my country!

    I'm not about to get together with any of them and sing Kumbaya and put flowers in my hair! I don't have much hair anyway, because I'm bald on top of my head!


    And don't call me Bro, because I'm not your brother.


    My younger brother is also a piece of shit Republican Christard Fundie!


    And my worthless sister is a Mormon, and I have no use for either of them.


    So, you can just dunk your head in the toilet three times and only take it out twice!


    Go chew glass!!!

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  20. Yeah, so what? What does that have to do with THIS conversation. I have also talked about Ice cream and frappes vs. Milk shakes but that doesn't related to,this conversation either! You shouldn't be pulling in several conversations and trying to force it I to what YOU believe is a variation of your truths! Whatever I said about The President on some other site, in some other conversation has nothing to do with your "blog". And it is NOT up to you to take what I have stated or not stated elsewhere and say I am a liar! Loathe some Troll that you are. Creeper and ignorant is no way to get into Heaven. You are vile and repugnant juvenile behaving homophobic and racist with a huge propensity to blow hot air! Good Day, Good B he, and GOOD RIDDENCE!

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  21. So now you want a pity party because even your family doesn't like you?? Wah, wah, wah, all the way home......

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  22. So, what does that make you? Other than a self loathing windbag??

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  23. And that has what to do with this Troll blog site? NOTHING!!! Don't be calling the kettle black when you are the POT bellied pig of ignorance!

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  24. No, I really don't give a flying fucking Hootenanny in Hell that I wasn't liked by my siblings.

    My brother and sister are a couple of morons. So, I expect to be hated by morons!

    They are both so fucking retarded they couldn't find their way back out of their own socks!

    They hated anyone who has a forehead and a pre-frontal lobe!

    You remind me very much of my siblings!

    If you had a brain, you would have it bouncing up and down trying to shoot hoops!

    But as it is, you don't even have a forehead!

    No, all you have is a flat top just above your Neanderthal brow-ridge, and a pile of shit on top of that, and the flies sitting on top of the shit, with their tiny little brains brains doing all the thinking for you!

    I'm surprised that you can even remember to breath!

    You lack a pre-frontal lobe, the neo-cortex, and limbic system.

    All you have is the brain-stem, or R-complex, like a reptile, and even reptiles have more brains than you.

    Yeah! You're one of those stem-people!

    Even a mosquito or a gnat has more brains than you have.

    If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to drive an ant's motorcycle across the top of a bottle cap!

    Yeah! You only have all you need to be a good Christian Republican tea-bagger!

    Too bad you don't have a forehead. Then you could wear a hat with tea-bags dangling from the brim!

    So! How do you like me, so far!

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  25. Gee, I am sorry you have such issues! I won't feed the Troll!

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  26. W.C. Dr Bear is one of the most decent and worthwhile people on this planet. He is an accomplished gentleman in many fields and he is not a hater and BTW the opposite of love is not hate it is indifference. Dr Bear is a passionate and educated man. Dr Bear is a man of great integrity who has done something with his life.

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  27. Dr Bear is not only formally educated he went to the school of hard knocks where he earned several advanced degree in addition to his formal degrees. Most people who have been through the crap life handed him would turn into a pile of pathetic goo. Dr Bear took life's lemon and turned them into lemon chiffon pie and he did it no thanks to the Christian fundamentalist haters and abusers. They were the one who mercilessly fucked with him when he was a child and instead of playing the victim Dr Bear became one of the most educated and accomplished men on this planet. So, am I saying that he is better than you? YES I AM. Show him the respect that he deserve and thank him for the dressing down he gave you. If you drop you Christer pride for a moment perhaps you will see why you should thank Dr Bear for his candor.


    Speaking of Christian and you claim to be one; Christians all claim to love and I will bet dollars to donuts that you never said one prayer for Michael Brown or his grieving family. You Christians are in most cases the biggest phonies on the planet. This love and forgiveness that you talk about is all bullshit. Darren Wilson didn't turn the other cheek. Darren Wilson from 148 feet away pumped at least 7 more bullets into Michael Brown. A person 1/2 a football field away is not a threat unless he is armed with a gun and as we know Michael was unarmed but in your hate you ignore that crucial fact.


    Darren Wilson is a cream puff who stupidly put his hands on Michael Brown. Brown, knowing what thugs cops are today tried and he got away. While Brown was 148 feet away Wilson the coward executed him. Go to a gun range and try to hit a human sized target at that range. It is not easy.

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  28. Look like Dr Bear chewed you up and spit you out and your only comeback is that tired line that all loser and internet trouble maker resort to after they have gotten their asses kicked. YOU are the troll and you got owned and Dr Bear is not even warmed up yet.

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  29. Now you have totally crossed the line you fat nasty subversive. None of my commentators other than you have threatened or harassed anyone. You came here psycho and you keep coming back. You have insulted Dr Bear and me. You have spread lies about Dorian Johnson and his testimony. You, on other sites have told lies about the president in an attempted to encourage other crazies like you to harm him and his family.


    The personal information that I have on you I have no intention of posting here and BTW your name, address, phone number, email, DOB ect.. are not public information but your criminal record (if you have one) is public information. Rest assured the authorities have all your personal data and I am quite sure they know about your veiled threats against the president and hatred for America. Like I told you before traitor, I sucker traitors and subversives like you to this and other blogs and I expose their anti-American statements.


    If you were not on the Secret Service watch list you are now. I guess Wanda you are simply a dangerous psycho with to much time on your hands like the unibomber. You certainly fit the profile.

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  30. You know.....The grand jury process is an opportunity for an officer to paint any picture he so desires. It is a story told that is not under oath. It is not like the defense, has any time to change the story, Michael Brown is dead. There was absolutely too much time for this story of Wilson's to hit the information highway. To me any story which comes outside the first seven days that is conflicting to any story inside the first seven days requires a trial.

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  31. For some odd reason, I cannot edit my posts on this site. Cannot fix anything either. Vowed to,never come back. But thought you were respectful enough to reply to. Sorry bout that.

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  32. There never need GJ in the first place. Wilson was not in danger because he fired the kill shots from 148 feet. The GJ was set up to make sure Wilson never went to trial.


    There was more than enough evidence to indict and enough to convict.


    Wilson is just an errand boy. The real criminal is the DA.

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  33. There should be no case in America where a individual police officer does not go to trial and avoid being subjected to oath, in which a death has occurred by the officer involved.

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  34. You mean you can't cover your tracks and retract your lies? My guess is that the authorities froze your posts and I think you will find that to be the case on other sites.

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  35. I most executions by the police it's the police who confront the victims. My guess is Wilson that his gun out of his holster even before he backed up. He was spoiling for a fight. I think he ordered Brown to the car. The kill shots were fired from 148 feet away.

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  36. Wilson initiated the contact and according to his testimony he made a smart ass remark to Brown and Johnson. It's hard to believe that Brown would have mouthed of back to Wilson since he had just done the robbery. Wilson was looking for trouble same as Zimmerman.


    What pisses me off is all the Godly Republicans saying that because Brown was no angel he deserved to be gunned down. Equally disgusting is the slaying of Eric Garner by another thug cop. I that case even members of the right wing are saying that the grand jury was fucking bullshit. This is not a he said she said. The entire murder was caught on video. The cop who killed Garner can't lie his way out of it.


    These killings by cops go beyond race and people need to take race out of it for now. This sort of stuff is happening to everyone. We have descended into a police state. Whites need to wake up to that fact and a lot are.

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  37. One thing I think we need to stress is that blind hatred for the police won't help anything. I am not one to say, most cops are good and that there are only a few bad ones. I think thing most cops are neutral and "just doing their job with blind allegiance to their department and the thin blue line. Many some to have adopted an us against them mentality. Good cops are the ones who turn in the bad ones but since good cops get no support and are often passed by for promotions we now have more bad cops than good ones. They say that the cream floats to the top but so does the scum.


    I think we need to do our best to reform policing by ridiculing the culture and mentality while acknowledging the need and the value of good policing and good public policy. Will Rogers said, "Be nice to your enemies, it will drive them nuts". There is law breaking in the country and while the majority of crime is White collar crime there is enough street crime to justify having police. The simple answer for people is to not break the law and be good citizens. Don't give the cops an excuse for fuck with us.


    I read somewhere that cops kill two Black teens each week. Parents need to have the "talk" with their sons. Discretion is the better part of valor. When a gang of cops surrounds you chances are you are not going to win. Try not to get into no win situations with the cops.


    American policing ceased being a profession long ago and today like prisons policing is an industry.


    We need legislation that will not only protect good cops but make it easier for good cops to come forward as whistle blowers and report on the thug cops.

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  38. There is a difference. Fat guys are loved and fat girls are hated.

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  39. I agree 100%.

    Another problem is something called prosecutorial immunity. Here are two examples. Tom Sneddon was the DA who tried to railroad Michael Jackson. Two years prior to the persecution/prosecution of Jackson the FBI had investigated Jackson and they found no wrong doing. Sneddon knew that but went after Jackson anyway. Because prosecutors have immunity they can break the law when trying to convict someone. Sneddon recently died of cancer. Ahhhh KARMA! Let's hope karma finds Nancy Grace, Martin Bashir and Diane Dimond as well. I am surprised that the Jackson family hasn't sued them for defamation.

    The other case was the Duke rape case where a scumbag named Mike Nyfong tried to railroad 4 Duke LaCrosse players. The players were 4 rich white kids and the complainant was a Black strippper. It started out as a he said she said and then the evidence came out that she was lying. Nyfong knew this going in. Had the victims been poor like kids at a community college they would not have been able to afford decent lawyers and they probably would have ended up in jail for a crime they did not do. The only thing that happened to Nyfong is that he lost his license to practice law in North Carolina. Like Sneddon, Nyfong should be in jail.

    http://www.occupyhln.org/mike-nifong/should-mike-nifong-still-be-in-prison/ This article talks about prosecutorial immunity.

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  40. I still believe the Duke guys did it. Being rich allowed them to attack the stripper and get off. That works for the rich MOST of the time.

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  41. I read about and read some transcripts. She lied and she had a history of lying to the police. There was irrefutable evidence that tow of the guys she accused were not even there.

    The players families were well off because they could send their kids to Duke but they were not Mitt Romney rich. Cops go after upper middle class. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case#Inconsistencies_in_Mangum.27s_story



    Magnum lied so many times that Nyfong should have told her to hit the bricks. Nyfong knew that Siegelman and the other accused were not even their when Magnum said the rape took place. There is time stamped photo evidence showing them at an ATM. Nyfong had that evidence and tried to hide it from the defense.


    District attorneys are elected officials so it is in their best interest to look tough on crime. Also cops and DAs work hand in hand and as most people know cops are trained liars as are DAs.


    What the cons won't admit is, Americans are very law abiding and street crime is way way down since the 70's and 80's and in spite of that America has the most people incarcerated than any other country including China.


    You may find the Innocence Project interesting. They have exonerated many convicted rapists and murderers using DNA. What is interesting is that labs are now framing people with phony DNA evidence. A guy I know is writing a book about it.


    It all boils down to cops and DAs being above the law.

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  42. Agreed! The grand jury was a farce and a sham.

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  43. I think you will find this video interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Eiewzq3bg

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  44. I'm now thinking that the pathologist is lying about every thing including getting shot in the back. Or the side back. Initially I was thinking that he must have gotten grazed on the arm and then turned around. But now, my hindsight is telling me that because the pathologist attempted to say that Micheal Brown didn't have his hands up, it tells me that he is willing to say anything to prove Officer Wilson's innocence. Because there is no way to tell if a person didn't bring their hands down after getting shot. So the probability of his exit wound becoming entry wounds has just gone up. You see, there was at least two account saying Michael Brown's body jerked while he was running away. If his body jerked, then it wasn't just an arm graze. And because if the side of his body got hit, both these two statements would be true as well. The fact that he turned around and attempted to raise his arm and "favored one of them. Because a body shot on the side would make you look like your favoring your arm, when it is just hard to put arms up because of the wound.

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  45. You know most of Officer Wilson's Testimony sounded like it was in his head.

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